Violin Forum/Message Board Forum Index Violin Forum/Message Board
Provided by Violin Vision
 
 FAQFAQ   SearchSearch   MemberlistMemberlist   UsergroupsUsergroups   RegisterRegister 
 ProfileProfile   Log in to check your private messagesLog in to check your private messages   Log inLog in 

Bow holders inside the case .

 
Post new topic   Reply to topic    Violin Forum/Message Board Forum Index -> Violin Making and Restoration Forum
View previous topic :: View next topic  
Author Message
John Cadd
Super Member


Joined: 23 Jul 2009
Posts: 1335
Location: Hoylake

PostPosted: Tue Jul 22, 2025 5:08 pm    Post subject: Bow holders inside the case . Reply with quote

It surprises me that the bow clips holding the frog end are so common. The turning piece has a nasty habit of catching the hairs when removing the bow . Sometimes the pivot can allow a single hair to be trapped. I have a solid wooden coffin case and the pivot design is made of wood and the pivot cobbled together with a piece of gut string . A simple replacement with some leather and glue to fix one side can be fitted . The leather would be held across the bow by Velcro or even a pair of magnets , I had a large spring clip covered with corduroy in a paper machee case and that never damaged the bow hairs .
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
skylerwhite
Junior Member


Joined: 23 Aug 2025
Posts: 2
Location: 3600 W 11th Ave, Eugene, Oregon

PostPosted: Sun Aug 24, 2025 2:53 am    Post subject: Re: Bow holders inside the case . Reply with quote

John Cadd wrote:
It surprises me that the bow clips holding the frog end are so common. The turning piece has a nasty habit of catching the Pips NYT hairs when removing the bow . Sometimes the pivot can allow a single hair to be trapped. I have a solid wooden coffin case and the pivot design is made of wood and the pivot cobbled together with a piece of gut string . A simple replacement with some leather and glue to fix one side can be fitted . The leather would be held across the bow by Velcro or even a pair of magnets , I had a large spring clip covered with corduroy in a paper machee case and that never damaged the bow hairs .

John, that’s interesting. I hadn’t thought about using leather or magnets for a bow holder before. How has your leather-and-glue setup held up over time compared to the spring clip you mentioned?
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
John Cadd
Super Member


Joined: 23 Jul 2009
Posts: 1335
Location: Hoylake

PostPosted: Sun Aug 24, 2025 6:47 am    Post subject: Bow holders Reply with quote

Hello skylerwhite. I changed the old clip in the coffin case .I put some small wooden blocks to fit the frog end .One inside the gap where the thumb usually goes. So that contains it and it needed something to keep it there . I used some green plastic from a container for Frog sticky tape. (I didn`t think of the pun at the time. )The plastic started as a cut out circular disc.The centre has a hole for a screw and washer for rotation . Then a section was cut out to release the bow when you turn it in the right position . Normally the disc stays in place when the case is carried. Get the screw tension just right to stop it flopping around .A bow stick should be downwards and the hair up in the case.
It works very well and the hair is safe .
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
John Cadd
Super Member


Joined: 23 Jul 2009
Posts: 1335
Location: Hoylake

PostPosted: Sat Sep 06, 2025 9:16 am    Post subject: Case bow holders Reply with quote

I moved one violin from an old molded case made of some sort of tough paper mache . Being careful with the bow clip I notice that the clip is short enough to need the hair to be pushed in before turning then rotating clip. Notice with these clip parts the casting edges (not smoothed down at all ) are not outwards , away from the bow hair , but right there against the hair . That makes it more likely to hook itself onto the hairs .So you need to press the hair inwards to make sure the clip is not trying to damage the hair.
Pushing the hair inwards breaks the golden rule which is not to touch bowhair if possible. The hair will soon build a nasty grease mark that will not play well.
Cases are made of softer material than old ,clunky ,wooden coffin boxes so a way around this is to try some velcro that can be glued on to any fairly stable surface . Easier said than done .Work out what screws are holding the plastic clip in place and try to attach a thin piece of wood to glue on some velcro . The harsh tough velcro that straps a violin neck in the case will be too grippy for violin hair. Just give it half a chance and you might regret it. A piece of cotton tape with a small softer velcro tab might hold the bow safely .
Who would have thought a simple mechanism to hold a bow would make an easy ,simple ,thing like learning a violin to become so complicated .
You could buy 2 magnets with holes and stitch one to the lid and another magnet stitched to cotton tape that would keep the bow still.
Look up How to attach a magnet to a hard or soft .surface . Ladies or girls might have an advantage with these skills .
Incredible 15,000 views already.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
Marquita
Junior Member


Joined: 29 Feb 2024
Posts: 3

PostPosted: Sat May 30, 2026 3:49 am    Post subject: Re: Bow holders inside the case . Reply with quote

skylerwhite wrote:
John Cadd wrote:
It surprises me that the bow clips holding the frog end are so common. The turning piece has a nasty habit of catching the opal ring hairs when removing the bow . Sometimes the pivot can allow a single hair to be trapped. I have a solid wooden coffin case and the pivot design is made of wood and the pivot cobbled together with a piece of gut string . A simple replacement with some leather and glue to fix one side can be fitted . The leather would be held across the bow by Velcro or even a pair of magnets , I had a large spring clip covered with corduroy in a paper machee case and that never damaged the bow hairs .

John, that’s interesting. I hadn’t thought about using leather or magnets for a bow holder before. How has your leather-and-glue setup held up over time compared to the spring clip you mentioned?

_________________
Look,
Listen,
Learn.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
Display posts from previous:   
Post new topic   Reply to topic    Violin Forum/Message Board Forum Index -> Violin Making and Restoration Forum All times are GMT - 4 Hours
Page 1 of 1

 
Jump to:  
You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot vote in polls in this forum


Powered by phpBB © 2001, 2005 phpBB Group