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Ken Pollard Member
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kjb Super Member
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Posted: Fri May 24, 2013 6:58 pm Post subject: |
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ok is that a short bow or is it longer than a 4/4 violin??
looks interesting, I am thinking of something like that for a electric 5 string..
send a sound sample if you get to it. |
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Ken Pollard Member
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Posted: Fri May 24, 2013 7:02 pm Post subject: |
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Yes, I should have put some details here.
The bow is a 1/4-size violin.
String length is 3/4-size violin.
Overall length of the instrument is just shy of 20 inches.
I need to get my video/audio recording in order. Should have one posted before too long. |
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violinarius Member
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Posted: Fri May 24, 2013 7:11 pm Post subject: |
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Nice work.
Thanks for sharing.
Cheers |
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actonern Super Member
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Posted: Fri May 24, 2013 8:29 pm Post subject: |
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How does the sound compare to a full size fiddle?
Best regards
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Ken Pollard Member
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Posted: Fri May 24, 2013 8:39 pm Post subject: |
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Part of the reason for building this was to have something for traveling. It fits inside a slightly modified 1/4-size violin case. Nice for plane travel. And I found, not being a touring performer, that I didn't need a full-sized violin when traveling, just something to dink around with, maybe learn a new tune or two, as an aside while traveling. There's always time where your partner is perphaps busy make herself beautiful, while you're in a motel room, and you don't want to aggrivate the neighbors. So a practice mute. And this sounds something like a full-sized violin with a heavy practice mute in place. It wouldn't win any tone awards. But, for me, using my spare time to diddle around on tunes, it might work. I don't know yet. Soon to take a trip and see how it goes.
There are more details listed in my blog, the link being in the original post. I built it quickly and cheaply as a proof-of-concept (or failure-of-concept) trial.
You can also see more construction photos at my flickr site http://www.flickr.com/photos/23218266@N06/sets/72157633349095028/ |
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actonern Super Member
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Posted: Fri May 24, 2013 8:49 pm Post subject: |
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I think off-beat instruments like this that someone has gone to all the trouble to make from beginning to end are cool!
The thought occurs... it doesn't have the same left hand upper bout reference point dimensions for shifting cues... does that feel strange?
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Ken Pollard Member
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Posted: Fri May 24, 2013 8:58 pm Post subject: |
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Shifting? What's that?
I am a fiddle player, and not a very good one. I play for dances, weddings, and various old-time or Scottish gigs. First position works for me most of the time.
Making things worse, this kit fiddle is played down on the arm, maybe against the chest or ribs. Even Rachel Barton Pine said that the kit fiddle is played with a collapsed wrist and in first position. So, I took that as good permission!
That being said, I did try to make the neck as nice as I could. One thing about these pochettes, I think, is that the width stays nearly the same as a full-size while the scale length is shorter. So the 'frets' are closer together, but the strings aren't.
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R Mac Member
Joined: 05 Mar 2013 Posts: 80 Location: Near Phily USA
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Posted: Fri May 24, 2013 9:38 pm Post subject: |
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That looks like a fun project, Ken!
How do you find dealing with the shorter string length? Does it mess you up, or do you find that you just "get it" in a bit?
I have been to your blog before while looking for stuff on medieval fiddles.
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Ken Pollard Member
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Posted: Sat May 25, 2013 12:55 am Post subject: |
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Thanks, Mac.
The shorter string length doesn't bother me, but again I'm mainly a 1st position player. After a couple moments, I find the notes and then don't think about it much.
I do have a few fiddle students, some of them young kids, and get the chance to tune and play their fractional instruments, so maybe that is some training I benefit from. |
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ctviolin Super Member
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Posted: Sat May 25, 2013 2:25 am Post subject: |
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| Ken Pollard wrote: |
I do have a few fiddle students, some of them young kids, and get the chance to tune and play their fractional instruments, so maybe that is some training I benefit from.
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Yes, ken - occasionally I have to remind and question myself about this phenonomen.
Have I got what's being talked about, right?
Though I play a 4/4 violin myself, I make and repair many different sized (school & kids - Spec's for example <g>...) fiddles, and I can immediately switch between whatever size violin or viola I need to, without giving it much thought,
the switching is routine and automatic.
I've been doing this for so long, that I don't really even think about the change in finger position or scale lengths.
I never did find out if this simply becomes routine for violin repairmen, or is it one of those things that simply isn't difficult for most all players?
I would guess that it simply becomes routine or automatic for most any players, still... I'd really like to know.
Anybody else? _________________ Look,
Listen,
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ctviolin Super Member
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Posted: Sat May 25, 2013 2:31 am Post subject: Re: Pochette |
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Oh yeah...
I almost forgot - very cool violin, Ken.
It looks immensely convenient for travel.
ct _________________ Look,
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ctviolin Super Member
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Posted: Sat May 25, 2013 8:20 am Post subject: Re: Pochette |
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| Ken Pollard wrote: | My latest project was a dance master's fiddle.
I've put a post on my blog regarding the construction. Let's see if I can get a link to work
It's certainly not a concert instrument, but I'm having a little fun messing about with it.
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Well Ken,
I realize that I have a large and, uh, active mouth...
But I've gotta say - this is an extremely interestiing post - and I find myself re-reading it for some reason, thanks for posting it.
I'm as impressed by the simple desire to make something useful, the direct, immediate approach to design and construction, and the immediate and intuitive method of building...
For many people on the internet - it would have been a somewhat more painful process. Yes, I believe so;
"What string length do I need? How deep must it be? What about the plate thicknesses? Should this be made from earthly materials?" (Ok, I went a bit far on that last one) still, (and I'm not saying I wouldn't have been right there, asking away too, mind you)
- the fact that you apparently just went ahead and constructed it for use (I'm assuming that it went about as smoothly as the photos show) and are now playing it?, well, that's pretty cool.
I remember being just as impulsive and "building natured" once, when I was a bit younger... and much less ""careful"" and much more impulsive.
Yes, I believe there is a very cool thing here for most all of us makers to remember, (or even, perhaps to learn) - about building this stuff.
In particular stuff of our own design - and for our own particular use.
Thanks again,
ct _________________ Look,
Listen,
Learn.
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DonLeister Moderator
Joined: 29 Mar 2007 Posts: 383 Location: Richmond, VA
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Posted: Sat May 25, 2013 8:23 am Post subject: |
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Cool fiddle Ken!
I thought you played the fiddle pretty well And that was before the beer and afterwards who cares!
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DonLeister Moderator
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Posted: Sat May 25, 2013 8:28 am Post subject: |
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| I think playing in tune seems to be a learned reflex and is encouraged by those nearby. I could see a bumper sticker that read 'Friends don't let friends play out of tune' |
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