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antonio Member
Joined: 21 Sep 2008 Posts: 27 Location: Croatia
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Posted: Tue May 21, 2013 3:17 pm Post subject: My numero uno |
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Just a couple of words before you start writing your comments...
I can say I learned a lot by making this violin, for example that violin making and impatience don't go together, and I didn't believe when some of you said that an average man becomes addicted to violin making after first violin, but now I do believe that, I was such a newbie, sorry (I still am).
You will find many mistakes on my first violin, some made because of my ocassional impatience, some because of cheap plans, patterns and books I had, and some because of my cheap tools, although I bought some special tools for this project. I remember when I got my violin neck template, I was furious because it didn't fit the template from the cheap book I had. Then it occured to me that not every violin neck is the same... haha. That's how much I new about violin making. But... that's where you all came... with all your answers, thank you... I am not a violinist, but the sound seems to be very powerful; I will put synthetic Thomastik Dominant strings. Finally this violin is made within acceptable parameters, although it is inspired by Pietro Giacomo Rogeri (Ruggerius), Brescia, 1715, by that I mean the archings are similar.
I finished the woodwork in one month, and after that 10 days of varnishing. I put these pegs and tailpiece for now. I am not satisfied with the colour, I wanted it to be more brown, a bit darker, but this is what I got. I applied 1 coat of gelatine, 2 coats of primer varnish, then 4 coats of brown coloured varnish, and then 3 coats of colourless coating varnish. The varnish is oil based, and between each coat I sanded it with rottenstone and water. Before this I also applied antique stain. I have a question... Can a man call himself a luthier after one violin...
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actonern Super Member
Joined: 15 Aug 2007 Posts: 444
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Posted: Tue May 21, 2013 4:20 pm Post subject: |
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I think anyone's first effort is the proper subject of congratulations only.
Refinements inevitably come, but for now, just luxuriate in the beauty of these things, and feel the pride that it came from your own hands!
(The bottom corners make it look to me like it is smiling)
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L P Reedy Super Member
Joined: 02 Apr 2009 Posts: 276 Location: Brevard, NC
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Posted: Tue May 21, 2013 4:20 pm Post subject: |
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| I don't really see mistakes, just lack of experience. Not bad for one month. My first was made using a couple of books and my old very cheap fiddle for reference. I had no one at all to ask for advice. I've made close to 70 now and I'm still learning. And it still takes more than a month. |
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ctviolin Super Member
Joined: 07 May 2009 Posts: 961 Location: Roswell
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Posted: Tue May 21, 2013 4:32 pm Post subject: Re: My numero uno |
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| antonio wrote: |
Just a couple of words before you start writing your comments...
I can say I learned a lot by making this violin, for example that violin making and impatience don't go together, and I didn't believe when some of you said that an average man becomes addicted to violin making after first violin, but now I do believe that, I was such a newbie, sorry (I still am).
Can a man call himself a luthier after one violin...
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Ok Antonio,
I'll answer this.
You know - when you're walking down the street on a warm summer day, and an ordinary but pretty girl walks by and smiles at you, and you smile back...
Now, nothing out of the ordinary, nothing more - just a pleasant exchange, and you go on your way - happy because someone just smiled at you?
although not stunningly beautiful, she's a pretty girl - and all you can do is think - "äh, yes, look around - life is good".
To me, such a thing as that - and seeing and hearing someone present such a thing as this as a first violin?
I'm thinking, "there's a guy that's been bitten..."
Though I can easily see the beginning qualities 'you mention - I believe I can also see the road you've started down.
I envie anyone on that road, already on it, or just putting their feet on the path.
Yeah, I like this violin. _________________ Look,
Listen,
Learn. |
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pmccombs Member
Joined: 15 Jan 2013 Posts: 87 Location: Utah
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Posted: Tue May 21, 2013 5:12 pm Post subject: |
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| Very nice scroll work. I still can't make a scroll that good. |
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kjb Super Member
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Posted: Tue May 21, 2013 5:30 pm Post subject: |
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You did a very nice job for the first one with almost no outside help.
Not sure what you mean by a luthier, I think that technically you would probably have to make more than one, but in the end its what you believe you are that should count. As you get along in your life you will be able to answer that question yourself quite well!! good luck and have fun. |
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Mikes Member
Joined: 28 Mar 2007 Posts: 80 Location: Vermont, USA
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Posted: Wed May 22, 2013 10:04 am Post subject: |
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Yes very nice work and you will continue to improve! Keep studying and looking at good instuments and develop your eye for detail. Having been bitten myself, violin making brings great joy and challange to my life that I enjoy immensely. When my wife describes the making of my 1st violin to others she compares the process to giving birth to a child when I strung it up and played the first notes on it. For me it is the best ever to have a good player play my instruments!
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Lemuel Site Admin
Joined: 12 Aug 2010 Posts: 515 Location: Mt. Elgin, Ontario
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Posted: Wed May 22, 2013 12:28 pm Post subject: |
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| Congratulations! For your first, I say pretty good and fast for a newbie...as the others are saying...keep on going. |
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ctviolin Super Member
Joined: 07 May 2009 Posts: 961 Location: Roswell
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Posted: Thu May 23, 2013 1:02 am Post subject: |
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hey, is that an extra (teeny - tiny) nick high on the right ff hole?
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Ok - that's it, I take it all back.
(Yes, whenever I look at this violin over again - she still looks beautiful!
Again, nice work - I see very much personality - when you starting #2?) _________________ Look,
Listen,
Learn. |
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antonio Member
Joined: 21 Sep 2008 Posts: 27 Location: Croatia
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Posted: Thu May 23, 2013 4:58 am Post subject: |
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| ...tiny nick?... no, it is not. I think it is dust or something... thanks for the comments! I will start #2 when I get the wood, this last one was from France (Pilgrims Projects). Precut maple back was bent a lot at the thinner end, but I managed to use it anyway. And I'll buy 4-5 good quality chisels with appropriate grinding stone, one more thumb plane, strobel's book and a couple of more things. |
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violinarius Member
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Posted: Fri May 24, 2013 6:28 pm Post subject: |
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Nice work!
A big part of making violins is in training the eye.
I took carving/sculpture lessons to learn how to look at things with a discerning eye.
Take every chance you get to look at top class work, both Classical Cremonese, as well as other schools, and don't forget top modern makers too. |
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actonern Super Member
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Posted: Fri May 24, 2013 6:49 pm Post subject: |
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"...A big part of making violins is in training the eye..."
I think of the craft as a 3 stage program.
1st, is the development of tool control... the ability to make the tools do what you want.
2nd comes the ability to know what you want; to develop a style that is compelling and attractive to the musician...from wood choice to varnish.
3rd is how to make them sound good! Crap that's a hard one! |
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kjb Super Member
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Posted: Fri May 24, 2013 6:57 pm Post subject: |
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