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PostPosted: Fri Dec 14, 2012 12:10 am    Post subject: Violin making takes a break... Reply with quote

Story time.

Most of you know that I've recently had and am recovering (yeah, still) from a stroke. It was a result from some of the bad chemicals they were using while I was on dialysis...

It was quite an experience, and it has changed me and my personality and my interests and goals in some interesting ways.

Though I've tried, I'm find it hard to get back into violin making exactly. I must say that I don't understand it. I've been doing (violins) this for nearly twenty years now. I've still got several half finished violins sitting around the shop - plenty of violin wood I've collected through the years, fittings galore, and all of the tools and other necessary ect.s.

So, I wonder, in a way, what's going on?

I guess that I'm waiting for the bug to bite me again. I know for a fact that it will, eventually - this is all I've been doing for the past many years, really, is making and repairing violins, playing grandad to my grand kids - and being married.

Though I will tell everyone about this oddity which I find interesting...

I've gotten struck by a great desire to make bows.
I did buy some pernambuco from Bruce Harvie back when he was selling it. (back before he got ripped off) and so I am able to delve into it immediately.
I am back at my bench repairing violins, so, I'm still at my bench working.
But what I find myself making (I should say - "working on") lately is bows. It's a real break from violin making - which I did try to immediately get back onto, after this recent medical problem, but, I've gotten this weird bow making bug that has bitten me.
Odd, huh?

I do have a close (actually, he's a genius with developing techniques and methods of his own...) bow making friend, who is helping me get started at this.
I do also have the bow making book by Kun and Regh, (a very mechanical book) and the old standard by John Bolander Jr. (a hand made classic treatise). So, I have an idea how others have approached the subject also.

But the fact is that my friend is giving me extremely workable personal advice that I'm finding very well thought out, creative, and to the point... so, and I believe that in the long run, I'm lucky to have such a friend (who I met on the OLD Maestronet - before he left) so, I'm starting down this new path with these new tools and materials, and yet, I'm still in the violin making field.

Anyone else find themselves courting a change?
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 14, 2012 5:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm amazed by people that can stay constantly focused on violin making. I can't. I've found the best and fastest way to get back into it is not to "linger" but to take a complete break. I love landscape photography, motorcycling... lots of hobbies. After a month or so out of the shop altogether, one day, the passion comes back anew and I'm right back into it, enthusiastically, not out of a sense of artificial passion.
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 14, 2012 11:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well...as you probably know, Craig, I don't see lutherie as a hobby-- I want it to be what I do for a living. I am happiest when working on instruments, and I can spend 10-14 hours at it without it feeling like a chore.

The financial reality has been; if I can't sell them, it will have to remain a hobby. And, as it is a relatively expensive hobby, I may decide I can't do it at all. Except that I have enough wood for a few hundred instruments already stockpiled, and nothing else I really want to do, so...might as well build a cello, or whatever. Smile

I'm glad you are building bows...have you tried the Ipé or Bloodwood, yet? They are definitely cheaper and reasonable alternatives, and you have a little of each, so you might consider practicing on that, and saving the Pernambuco for when you feel more confident in your skill.

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PostPosted: Fri Dec 14, 2012 9:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

So Craig - how soon will you be posting some pictures of your bows? Can't wait!
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 15, 2012 10:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Anyone else find themselves courting a change?


Craig --- Glad you're back in your shop.

Been out of mine for a couple months now. Got the wood all laid out for next two. Got stomach ache. Had gall bladder removed last week. Hope to be back cutting wood soon.

I had started a bow many years ago. Just for fun and practice. Used maple. To see how that would work. Why not? One of those "to be finished" projects. Lots of those. Lots of songs.

actonern --- I too have many hobbies --- passionately pursue this one for a while. Put it down. Then that one ....

Chet --- Still want to try and sell a couple through local shops, but this body delayed that.

Ed --- yes. Pictures
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 16, 2012 12:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Go for it Craig! Sounds great. Will we have to pop over to the bow making forum to chat with you now? Very Happy I watched a show in French the other day about making bows. It was incredibly interesting. I had no idea what all was involved (course, I had no idea what they were saying either...)

Violin making isn't my day job. I wish it was......but it's a hobby for me - a very enjoyable hobby. At times I do lose that enthusiasm but then I hear a wonderful violin or see one that really catches my eye and then I get motivated again.
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 16, 2012 10:43 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

actonern wrote:
I'm amazed by people that can stay constantly focused on violin making. I can't. I've found the best and fastest way to get back into it is not to "linger" but to take a complete break. I love landscape photography, motorcycling... lots of hobbies. After a month or so out of the shop altogether, one day, the passion comes back anew and I'm right back into it, enthusiastically, not out of a sense of artificial passion.



Ok, actonern, I'll admit that didn't used to understand such utter nonsense - but I'll say that it makes perfect sense to me now. As, I am also tackling many small household projects like repainting the old trim right above the floor(s) - and the new window frames we put in with the double paned windows... AND even helping my wife continue with the backyard (it's got three shade arbors with tables and chairs, a fish pond with about thirty giant goldfish in it... (which we put there) and a livestock watering tank put there for the grand kids wading pool.

Having non violin related hobbies.

Wow, what a thing!



Ok - so, its not violin related but I've got to admit - it is fun.
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 16, 2012 11:06 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Chet Bishop wrote:


I'm glad you are building bows...have you tried the Ipé or Bloodwood, yet? They are definitely cheaper and reasonable alternatives, and you have a little of each, so you might consider practicing on that, and saving the Pernambuco for when you feel more confident in your skill.

Chet


I will admit Chet, that I haven't touched the ipe or bloodwood yet - but they are clamped rigidly to the small stack of pernambuco I have (to keep them all absolutely straight through the ages)

And, I guess I'm saving them for AFTER I learn the basics... I,ve got three pernambuco blanks cut out already, which I'll try to make bows out of first.

Your right , it makes not all that much sense, except for the fact that I have more pernambuco than those other woods - which look pretty cool for bows - so, they will be used when I do know what I'm doing...

I promise photos as soon as I figure out the photo deal here. (I guess I'm lazy in that regard!)
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 16, 2012 11:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

kubasa wrote:
Go for it Craig! Sounds great. Will we have to pop over to the bow making forum to chat with you now? Very Happy I watched a show in French the other day about making bows. It was incredibly interesting. I had no idea what all was involved (course, I had no idea what they were saying either...)

Violin making isn't my day job. I wish it was......but it's a hobby for me - a very enjoyable hobby. At times I do lose that enthusiasm but then I hear a wonderful violin or see one that really catches my eye and then I get motivated again.


Thanks kubasa, I am reading both of my bow making books, and talking to my bow making friend - I'm trying to figure out what my particular personal approach will be.

I haven't gotten very far yet, other than to get three square bow blanks cut out and today I believe I'll taper them prior to making them octagonal...

Pretty exciting, I must say. (I know, I sound like a twisted freeking bow maker already)

Like I say - I am taking photos as I go, and will end up posting them so everyone can have a good laugh at me when I figure it out.

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PostPosted: Sun Dec 16, 2012 11:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ed Shillitoe wrote:
So Craig - how soon will you be posting some pictures of your bows? Can't wait!


Ed,

I'm as anxious to post photos as I can be. After all I can yack about this all day long but without photos - its like just simple yacking with no proof, right?

Photos will be up as soon as I figure it out bud! (I promise)

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PostPosted: Sun Dec 16, 2012 8:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Craig,
I really look forward to seeing your bow making pics. Hope you are doing well....!!

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fiddler59 wrote:
Craig,
I really look forward to seeing your bow making pics. Hope you are doing well....!!

David Blackmon




Ah David, Hi, it's good to hear from you.


I'm doing ok - and I hope all is also well with you.
I'm reading and reading about bows right now, because there is quite a bit of close tolerance work and theory behind making them. I did know that that was the case, because of my short delving into them some years ago. But the fact is that they are so different than violin making work, that I must admit it is really intriguing (for me right now) to saturate my brain with the theory and with the possibility of making something new (new for me that is).

I did cut out three (full size) blanks from a stick of pernambuco I had, and the first one I worked on showed me the tolerance (wandering) problems with my (old Sears 12" ) bandsaw, so I spent a full day cleaning and adjusting it (well, I hope!) and putting a new 1/2" saw blade on it...

No tolerance problems now, thank god.

My first blank will now be a 3/4 bow though (ha ha!)

But at least I'm also hands on working - along with the reading. Really it's difficult for me not to be out in the shop - working on something!

I know of your interest in rehairing - have you ever had the idea of makng one?

(Note) Sorry, i see that I have missed some of your recent posts - My apologies, I'm telling you - this stroke has me on a strange course in life. Keeping up with what's going on around me is not my strongest point right now -

I will get some pictures up of this new venture dealing with bows, I will concentrate on learning the proceedure here for posting them...

Then, I promise - it might take a while, but I'm anxious myself to post some of this bow making stuff.

Really nice hearing from you, stay well my friend.
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