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riffwraith Junior Member
Joined: 14 Aug 2013 Posts: 7
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Posted: Thu Sep 22, 2016 5:58 pm Post subject: Spiccato vs. staccato |
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Hi all
I am having a convo with a fellow composer on another forum. Neither of us plays the violin, so I was hoping someone can set the record straight.
My understanding of spiccato/staccato is that the former is a lighter "touch", where you are allowing the bow to bounce more, whereas the latter is a more deliberate stroke, where the notes are a bit longer in length. Please correct me if I am wrong here.
Furthermore, and in terms of notation, my understanding here is that stac gets a dot above/below the notehead, whereas with spic, you have the dot and you mark "spic" above the staff. This of course, knowing that after a certain tempo, stac becomes literally impossible.
Thanks in advance. |
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Xelebes Junior Member
Joined: 19 Sep 2016 Posts: 2 Location: Edmonton
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Posted: Sat Sep 24, 2016 12:00 am Post subject: |
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I've never come across the term but it appears to be a double-speed staccato. Staccato results in a half-beat stroke and spiccato results in a quarter-beat stroke, so to speak. To play it is go at it lightly while staccato has some drag on the hairs.
The notation of the spiccato is the downward triangle. If you can't set the triangle, then what you propose would suffice, I suppose. As I said, in the music I use I don't see it marked down.
Fellow composer on another forum: GuitarsCanada? |
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Joseph Leahy Member
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JG Junior Member
Joined: 06 Mar 2014 Posts: 23 Location: Vancouver
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Posted: Mon Sep 26, 2016 3:33 pm Post subject: |
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Staccato is the general musical effect of short detached notes. Violinists can achieve this effect in various ways: short detached strokes on the string, detached strokes off the string ('spiccato'), martelé strokes, and slurred runs of separated notes. (This last is the very limited sense in which Mr. Sassmanshaus uses the word staccato in the video.) Each technique produces a slightly different staccato effect.
Outside of violin instruction books, normally it's conductors, section leaders, and soloists who decide which technique works best in a given passage. The composer can just put dots and leave the rest to the players. |
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riffwraith Junior Member
Joined: 14 Aug 2013 Posts: 7
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Posted: Fri Oct 14, 2016 9:25 pm Post subject: |
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Thanks for the replies
Xelebes wrote: |
Fellow composer on another forum: GuitarsCanada? |
No, gearslutz
Cheers. |
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