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BK
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 01, 2011 9:13 am    Post subject: Question about block height Reply with quote

Hi All,

I have a question about the internal block heights. The top block that is located below the neck is supposed to be about 2mm lower than the other blocks. I didn't really understand how you should compensate for the loss of this 2mm when you are carving the top plate. Do you need to somehow shave down the bottom portion of the plate? Because, it seems that if you leave the top plate completely flat, then the ribs and the top plate would have a 2mm gap towards the front.

Any help is greatly appreciated, as always! Smile

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BK
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 01, 2011 1:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The ribs are also shorter. Gradual taper from the end block to the neck block.
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L P Reedy
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 01, 2011 5:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

FiddleDoug wrote:
The ribs are also shorter. Gradual taper from the end block to the neck block.

Not necessary. It works fine to taper from the upper blocks to the neck block and is what I always do since I learned about it.

No need to compensate. The top plate easily bends to conform when you glue it on.
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 03, 2011 5:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

oh, ok, I didn't realize that the top plate will bend to compensate for the difference.

I also didn't fully understand what the purpose of the taper is exactly. Is this necessary to make room for the neck?
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 03, 2011 3:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

There isn't a firm explanation for the taper as a tradition. You can see some discussion of it and the evidence for it in Roger Hargrave's very interesting article on the working methods of Guarneri Del Gesu on his web site.

Some makers work specific taper strategies into their making with specific rationales, but those are not universal.
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 03, 2011 5:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

As Andres implies, there are several ways of doing the taper, including the full length method that Doug mentioned. Some taper the back instead of the front, or some combination. I think the general consensus is that it is just for looks, but at one time I speculated to myself that there might be a small structural benefit, which I was not even able to convince myself was true. I still have not entirely ruled that out, however.
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 06, 2011 2:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I don't bother tapering my ribs; I make them all the same height. If I was to do so, I would taper from the bottom block all the way to the top. I'm against purposely inducing any unnecessary stresses into the instrument.
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